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9/15/2009 2:38 PM Alert 

Copy and paste if link isn't live.

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/new_jersey/20090915_Poker_Guy__She_s_calling_it_a_bad_deal_in_A_C_.html

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10/15/2009 3:56 PM Alert 
I heard about this guy- what a douche bag.
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10/15/2009 5:16 PM Alert 
Enlighten me...why is he a "douche bag" gikiss ??
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10/16/2009 1:21 PM Alert 
i see nothing wrong with this at all. plus, if he wasn't in the tournament there would be many different factors and the lady who came in second may not have placed at all.
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10/16/2009 1:24 PM Alert 
Posted By Tom McMenamin on 10/15/2009 5:16 PM
Enlighten me...why is he a "douche bag" gikiss ??

 

 

Gkiss doesn't know why.  Other than the fact that a guy won a tournament he wasn't supposed to play in.  I understand your point as well Tom, but I'll tell you why he is a douche bag...

That article is bullXXXX.  They guy lied about everything he said in that article.

 

I will tell you that he was asked repeatedly to not play in the event by Borgata staff.  nicely as well.  He was even offered something in return.  He states in the article that if someone from the Borgata asked him not to play he wouldn't have.

That is not only a lie, but a pretty bold faced one.  What he did do was cry like a bitch and INSIST on playing.  Three times.

He also talked about a chop.  Again, lie.  the guy is a scum bag.  but not for only palying in the ladies event.  He's a scumbag because he distorts the truth over something that lent him no honor anyway.



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10/16/2009 3:30 PM Alert 
James....if you say the guy is a douche, then i 'll have a little blind faith and believe it. For people to say that the guy was unethical or a jackoff simply due to what was written in the link that Chris posted, i'd still like to know the thought process involved in them getting to that conclusion.
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10/16/2009 7:21 PM Alert 
Posted By Tom McMenamin on 10/16/2009 3:30 PM
James....if you say the guy is a douche, then i 'll have a little blind faith and believe it. For people to say that the guy was unethical or a jackoff simply due to what was written in the link that Chris posted, i'd still like to know the thought process involved in them getting to that conclusion.



 

damn, am I the only one who reads Jim's blog? 

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10/17/2009 12:01 AM Alert 
Micheal, i too read Jame's blog.....the question i posed was specifically for gikiss and how he got to the conclusion that the dude was a 'douche' simply from reading the link that was posted.
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10/18/2009 1:26 AM Alert 

I was there along with Jim as this whole thing unfolded.  Here's a link to what I wrote at the time.

The main reason the guy is a douche is that, while is explanations are plausible, I don't believe he was sincere in what he told me and others. But how do prove what he's thinking/feeling?

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10/18/2009 4:07 PM Alert 
Again Jeff, after reading your blog i see nothing which warrants any wrong doing on his part (short of my belief in James assertation that the guy is indeed a douche bag). My staunch conviction in there should never be a tournament which is sexist and limits the entrants to having a vagina and breasts which are capable of lactating.
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10/18/2009 4:19 PM Alert 
Not disagreeing with you Tom...legally no one should be banned. What makes him a douche is how he handled the situation. If he had kept his mouth shut and not changed his tune/reasons...etc. it would've been a different story.

A lot of the women came up to me and said that he was antagonizing the woman and making light of the fact that the women were upset. Things like, "gee...we're going on break which restroom do you think I should use?"

It's one thing to play in the event and another to fuel the fire when you know a lot of people are upset. He can be right for what he did and still be a douche.
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2/03/2010 4:08 PM Alert 

sorry, for my lack of following these replies more closely-  I had heard about the guy- which is what I wrote, I didn't even read the article, so I guess I should have been more specific as to my conclusion about a guy who needs to assert his dominance by entering an all women's event.  I don't even have to know about what kind of lies he told to know this though, as the type of man who insists on playing in a women's event is no doubt in my mind a douche bag, and will undoubtedly go home alone, but perhaps I am too quick to judge.

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2/04/2010 1:40 PM Alert 

Maybe this guy is a "douche" ;a device used to introduce a stream of water into the body for medical or hygienic reasons, or the stream of water itself; (Wikipedia online) ;a word to describe an individual who has shown themselves (previous word corrected for grammar) to be very brainless in one way or another, thus comparing them to the cleansing product for vaginas; (Urban Dictionary) which i personally think most people are in some fashion or another and this guy may very well be one. However, maybe this guy decided to insist upon entering this tournament simply as a show of protest as permitted by the 1st amendment of the US Constitution because it was designated as a "ladies only" tournament. What makes you think that this guy's comments/attitude were not simply strategy, therefore ultimately resulting in his victory. Outside of the teachings and coaching by the very skillful poker players that got me into the game, and my natural as well as learned abilities which I've come to incorporate into my game, I directly attribute my success early on in RPT as well as my continued success in "real" poker games to such "behavior" as defined by RPT regular conservatives/cry babies. These include the following; ability to often determine opponent hand strength prior to and throughout the duration of any given hand through the recognition of continued unconscious actions and body language, referred to in poker terms as "reading" an opponent, ability to quickly and accurately solve sometimes complex mathematical equations in my head, high poker IQ, the simple yet rare epistemological orientation often referred to by society as "common sense," and the ability to, yes folks, alter the psychological and physical state of an opponent, ex. increased heart rate and/or perspiration, nervousness, emotionally influenced change in mood or play (tilt), involuntary tremors of the extremities, etc, through the application of sometimes "objectionable" behavior. Now, don't get me wrong this guy is probably a complete douche bag and probably did go home to his cat and cabinets full of ramen noodles, but the general public can't always assume someone is a "douche" simply because they choose to defy sexist prejudice or use a controversial yet extremely effective mode of play. Lets see how many people would side with the cocky, arrogant female who insists on participating in a taboo "men only" event in today's society. ps. the bold, italic and underline functions don't work.

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2/04/2010 2:10 PM Alert 
Den-
I see what you are saying and did not really consider this as some in depth, well- thought out plot to piss everyone off and get them off their games (at least that's what I understood through all the "big words") If this was his plan, well hat's off, good performance. We all no doubt have things we do, whether knowing or not that will get someone off their game. Here's the thing, if this were flipped around and it were a woman you are absolutely right in insinuating no one would care, in fact people would make a big deal over how great she was. The difference being, despite it being 2010 we still are in a male dominated society, and that's just the way it is. No one cares about women's sports, we must be twice as good as a man just to make the same statement, and we have to look twice as good doing it. Now, I don't want to open up a can of worms, and I am not saying that men have any kind of physical or mental advantage in poker, but look around your average poker game and you still will find mostly men. Now fast forward to this event, a what, once a year occurrence hosted just for women poker players? Win or lose, there are a hundred other games or tournaments this guy could probably get in that day, but just HAD to play in this one. I don't need to meet this guy or hear anything further to tell you this guy is a jerk.
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2/04/2010 2:31 PM Alert 
Posted By gikiss on 2/04/2010 2:10 PM
Den-
I see what you are saying and did not really consider this as some in depth, well- thought out plot to piss everyone off and get them off their games (at least that's what I understood through all the "big words") If this was his plan, well hat's off, good performance. We all no doubt have things we do, whether knowing or not that will get someone off their game. Here's the thing, if this were flipped around and it were a woman you are absolutely right in insinuating no one would care, in fact people would make a big deal over how great she was. The difference being, despite it being 2010 we still are in a male dominated society, and that's just the way it is. No one cares about women's sports, we must be twice as good as a man just to make the same statement, and we have to look twice as good doing it. Now, I don't want to open up a can of worms, and I am not saying that men have any kind of physical or mental advantage in poker, but look around your average poker game and you still will find mostly men. Now fast forward to this event, a what, once a year occurrence hosted just for women poker players? Win or lose, there are a hundred other games or tournaments this guy could probably get in that day, but just HAD to play in this one. I don't need to meet this guy or hear anything further to tell you this guy is a jerk.

 

 

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2/04/2010 2:53 PM Alert 
Now clean up and make me a sandwich!!!
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2/04/2010 2:58 PM Alert 

Grandma: You still hit like a bitch, motherfu**er

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2/04/2010 3:39 PM Alert 
I fully understand the fact that it was an event designated for but not restricted to women because by federal law, the casino could not have told a man that he cannot play because of gender. I do not disagree that the guy is a jerk either. My point is simply that there is method to most madness and people will do these things for the reasons that i stated and people aren't necessarily jerks just because they do something that most people of a particular view or following may see as wrong. My other point is that "no we are no longer in a male dominated society, or white, or christian." What if I hosted a poker game and discouraged women from playing because I or the players don't want them there? Same goes for someone attempting to open a caucasian-only college or offering a caucasian-only scholarship. Many large law enforcement agencies award extra points in their testing to females and minorities. Businesses often hire a female or minority or person with disability over a white, physically fit male candidate who may be better suited for the job whether it be because of physical condition, mental capacity or education or all of them collectively simply because what was once the "minority" threw tantrums and filed lawsuits against the companies because the federal government mandated that white men can be favored over all others, which I fully agree with but this new found "power" is being abused and and has turned around to bite many of us because of lack of regulation. It's called the "race card." Now there will be people who read this and have no sensibility and will jump to the conclusion that I am a racist which is in no way whatsoever the case. I just believe that people shouldn't be given special treatment simply because they aren't a white male and vise-versa which historically was the sad truth. Survival of the fittest? Equal opportunity? I support women doing they're own thing but don't cry because a man decides to participate or vise-versa, which again was historically the sad truth. People are so quick to jump down the throats of Rush Limbaugh or Bill O'Reilly (caucasian males) for commenting on african-american crime, abuse of civil liberties, supporting the right to bear arms or illegal immigration, but who dare speak out against Rev. Al Sharpton (black) or Nancy Grace (female) who seem to always have something to say about a matter but rarely have honest, un-biased testimony to back it up, without backlash from special interest groups or their supporters. Many of you may think that I am blowing this out of proportion, but I felt that the side of the situation that I support needed to be brought into the open and defended and I do not do so without educated facts or making a strong case in the matter, making my posts rather extensive and detailed.
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2/04/2010 3:48 PM Alert 

I apologize if anyone is offended in any way by my arguement or my defense of it. Personally I do not care if anyone was offended or disagrees but my intention is not to hurt anyone, thus the apology ahead of time. Also, I may have made this into something that it is not or does not need to be but I saw a case which needed to be equally debated from a broader perspective and chose to do so accordingly. Thank You

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2/04/2010 4:20 PM Alert 

Honestly (ducking here), the lady sounds pretty whiny too.

"Rowe, who has been diagnosed with breast cancer, had hoped that the top prize in the Ladies No-Limit Texas Hold 'Em tournament would pay for her living expenses while she recuperated from the mastectomy she expects to have at the end of the month.

She was among more than 260 women who each put up $300 to play in the tournament,"

 

Boy, she had it all figured out.. Just thrown up $300 and outplay 260 women and she'll be good to go. What irks me, and I understand this guy is pure swine, is that people have to throw these circumstances into a report to make the impression of the foul so much greater. That being said, please donate to Breast Cancer Awareness. Cancer sucks. But, in all honesty the fact that she had or has breast cancer has nothing to bear on whether this guy's intentions were poorly conceived, out of line, or just plain spiteful as Jim has described.


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2/04/2010 4:35 PM Alert 

Den, two words -- carpal tunnel.

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2/04/2010 5:02 PM Alert 
he clearly said he would not have enter if someone asked him not to and he saw other men in the registration line. Nothing in the article gave me the impression that he was a douche about it. and i have played with enough lady's to know that a feed of 200 some with one guy is gonna be hard as hell. lady's play a different game especially when they play together. the game become more about tells and gut instinct then ever. try to bluff a table full a lady's and you will find out fast. so good for him. john Denver up here would have got called down and knocked out in the first five min. after trying to imply is psychological warfare tactics. and if i was ahead in a tournament that size and got heads up i would not split either no way. then i would have been pissd when i found out she was trying to make i daick out of me by saying she had cancer and need the money to pay for her living expenses did she really got to a game that size like oh when i win i can get by for the next couple months. BS first off she just said that to make him feel bad (what was she gonna do if someone sucked out on her early in the game). and second of all if you cant live a few months off 11 grand MOVE for the last couple years i was liveing off like 14grand a year. tell her to come to the skook she will be fine
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2/04/2010 5:17 PM Alert 

Den, off of the race/gender topic, you make a valid point about Tactics but they are not universally acceptable. Tactics used to put players on tilt that include angering them or insulting them or their play may be acceptable in casino tournaments and house games.

Your words "and the ability to, yes folks, alter the psychological and physical state of an opponent, ex. increased heart rate and/or perspiration, nervousness, emotionally influenced change in mood or play (tilt), involuntary tremors of the extremities, etc, through the application of sometimes "objectionable" behavior."

The "objectionable behavior" is not acceptable in RPT games. The difference is that in a casino, you are a paid entrant into an event. At an RPT game, you are a guest of the venue and RPT for a social event. Two completely different atmospheres. It's like starting a mosh pit at a musical recital. Both have music as the entertainment, yes, but they don't have the same acceptable behavior.

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2/04/2010 5:32 PM Alert 
den is a douche
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2/04/2010 5:35 PM Alert 

Andrew. 

Extremely well stated.

Thank you.

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